Grobnak Interview

# Wednesday, October 31, 2001::18:53:21 :: Now logging session to C:\WINDOWS\Desktop\grobnak.txt The Blue Moon Tavern. There are a flight of stairs leading down right here, into what looks like to be a bar. North large glass windows look out into the street. From here you can see Market Square and the Festival Square. You see the great. fountain flow with the waters of the river. . [Exits: south west down] [Doors: none]. A large round table with a candle sits in the middle of the room.. [..C.........] A cave bear sits here awating its masters command.. Grobnak has arrived.. Grobnak bows deeply.. You bow before him.. Krogenar motions to the table.. Grobnak takes a seat.. Grobnak grins evilly.. Krogenar tucks his crutches under the table.. Grobnak pulls Krogenar's chair out from under him.. Grobnak throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!. Grobnak grins evilly.. Grrrrrrrrrr.... Grobnak says 'Hrmm... '. Grobnak snickers softly.. You say [OOC] '1st part IC, 2nd OOC.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Sorry. Couldn't resist. :p'. Grobnak nods.. You say 'Please tell about yourself... who is Grobnak?'. Grobnak says 'Hmm..'. Grobnak says 'I was born some time near the beginning of the world... it's been so long, I couldn't really give you the year.'. Grobnak says 'I do know it was before my Lord first showed itself.'. You raise an eyebrow at the notion.. You say 'Who is this .. 'Lord'?'. Grobnak shrugs helplessly.. Wrapped in the same shell of battered armor it must have used in. life, this pathetic creature inspires only revulsion. It wears a . shroud with bits of purple and blue pieces of metal stitched. into it. You briefly wonder if metal is the only thing stitched into. this creature's clothing. The most prominent piece of metal, the breastplate, displays on its dented form the inscription "Jihad." Translated, this means "To struggle in the way of God.". The creature turns to you suddenly, and hisses, "Beware, young one,. RaGnARoK is coming for you.". The Jihad Website:. Under Construction. Grobnak is in excellent condition.. Grobnak is surrounded by an icy shield.. Grobnak is surrounded by a fiery shield.. Grobnak is surrounded by a crackling shield.. . Grobnak is using:. <head> a bandanna of heroism. <neck> a bloody cloak. <neck> a bloody cloak. <torso> elven chainmail. <body> a survival pack. <arms> a pair of scale mail sleeves. <l. wrist> a shiny beaded bracelet. <r. wrist> a shiny beaded bracelet. <hands> a pair of cotton gloves. <r. finger> a pink ice ring. <l. finger> a pink ice ring. <waist> a leather belt with a gold buckle. <legs> a pair of standard issue leggings. <feet> a pair of iron-bound boots. <light> [....G..] a Fire opal. <floating> an Incandescent Blue Stone. <pri. weapon> a keen-edged longsword. <sec. weapon> a keen-edged longsword. Grobnak says 'Ragnarok. I also serve The Apprentice, and Sephiroth.'. You say [OOC] 'Please keep going... I'm handing out Halloween candy...'. Grobnak says 'Ragnarok is, in all honesty, more of a front for our activities for The Apprentice.'. Grobnak says [OOC] '*chuckle* :p'. Grobnak says 'Well, during my mortal years I was enslaved.'. Grobnak says 'And I was mining in some caves and accidentally broke the seal of The Tomb of The Apprentice... and accidentally tasted his dead blood.'. Grobnak says 'Ever since, I've been able to ...hear him.'. You say [OOC] 'back..'. Grobnak says 'At first I fought it.'. Grobnak nods.. You say 'You were a miner? Thats a noble profession.'. Grobnak says 'It was shortly after I broke the seal of The Tomb that the RoK first appeared. I know Sephiroth was there, too. Though I didn't know who he was at the time.'. Grobnak says 'No... I was a warrior...'. Grobnak says 'My village was destroyed by the Orangefang Klan'. You say 'An evil warrior?'. Hmmm you looked puzzled? Something wrong?. Grobnak glares icily at you, you feel cold to your bones.. Grobnak says 'I am not evil, and I have never been evil.'. You say 'Wait.. you are an OrangeFang?'. Grobnak says 'I am not as righteous as I once was.'. Grobnak says 'But I am not evil.'. Grobnak says 'Yes, I am an Orangefang.'. Grobnak says 'I grew up with my mother. One of Kossuth's blessed.'. You say 'So how was your village destroyed by your own clan?'. You say 'How did you come to be?'. Grobnak says 'The village I grew up in was raided many times by the Orangefang Klan before it was destroyed.'. You nod.. You say 'I know how most half-orcs come into the world..'. Grobnak says 'I was conceived.. well, let's just call me a pleasant accident of unfortunate circumstance.'. Grobnak smirks.. You say '.. being one myself.'. Grobnak nods.. You say 'But my own life was, luckier, I suppose.'. Grobnak says 'I sympathize, Sinner.'. You cackle gleefully.. You say 'I am no Sinner.'. You say 'Why do you not call yourself Evil?'. Grobnak says 'Do you oppose the RoK?'. You nod.. Grobnak says 'Because I am not.'. You say 'I do. With all my Being.'. Grobnak says 'And if you oppose the RoK, you are a Sinner.'. You say 'The world would be shattered - destroyed.'. Grobnak says 'And Reborn.'. You say 'I won't let that happen - not without a fight.'. Grobnak snickers softly.. Grobnak says 'Why fight the inevitable?'. Krogenar eyes Grobnak carefully.. You shrug.. Grobnak says 'Ao sent the RoK before in his evil, and he will send it again.'. You say 'It's the fight that matters.'. Grobnak says 'Sooner or later, it will win.'. Grobnak shakes his head.. You say 'So it is Ao that is evil?'. Grobnak says 'Better to get it over with rather than leave it as a perpetual struggle for your children.'. Grobnak nods.. You say 'Couldn't it be this 'Apprentice' of his that is evil?'. Grobnak says 'Ao is a malignant entity'. Grobnak shakes his head.. You shake your head.. Grobnak says 'The Apprentice was only destroyed by Ao because he saw Ao's evil.'. Grobnak says 'And opposed it.'. You say 'Then you know nothing of nature. Adversity breeds strength. The prey and predator are both strengthened for the sake of the hunt.'. Grobnak says 'Such happens from time to time. Good does not always prevail.'. You nod.. You say 'That is true.'. Grobnak says 'I do not understand your analogy. Please explain.'. You say 'Adversity... the perpetual struggle you mentioned.'. Grobnak nods.. You say 'That is apparent in nature everywhere. The gazelle is hunted by the lion.'. You say 'Over centuries... both species have become stronger - for the sake of the struggle.'. Grobnak says 'But sooner or later it will prevail. Would you not rather have only The Balance to worry about rather than the life of the planet?'. You say 'Gazelles are now faster, more agile. And lions are more skillful.'. Grobnak says 'That has nothing to do with the RoK.'. You nod.. You say 'I disagree. The Rok is a test.'. You say 'Will the Children of The Realms be strong enough to stop The Apprentice?'. Grobnak says 'Your analogy of struggling against adversity is pales in comparison to what the RoK is.'. You say 'I believe Ao is watching.'. Grobnak falls down laughing.. You say 'And does not care about the outcome.'. Grobnak says 'Ao is the one who keeps sending the RoK!'. Krogenar narrows his eyes.. You say 'But I do.'. You nod.. You say 'I know he has sent it.'. You say 'To stop your Apprentice.'. Grobnak says 'If Ao did not care about the outcome, he would not keep sending the RoK to destroy the Apprentice'. Grobnak says 'The Apprentice is no threat to Ao... at present.'. You say 'He doesn't care if we stop it or not - but he must send it nonetheless. The Realms are caught in the middle... betwixt Ao and The Apprentice.'. Grobnak says 'Ao sends the RoK in blind hatred, dismissing the lives of the mortals with a wave of his hands.'. Grobnak says 'How can you defend that as not being evil?'. You say 'If we can find your apprentice, we might be able to stop this rogue godling.'. Grobnak says 'At least The Apprentice offers Salvation.'. Krogenar looks away in disgust.. Grobnak says 'The Apprentice was an Elder God.'. Grobnak says 'And he will be again. Gods never truly die.'. You say 'Even the Elder Gods must bow to Lord Ao.'. You say 'Even Mystra was forced to give Cyric and his kin acces to The Weave.'. Grobnak says 'The Apprentice is Ao's equal, Sinner.'. You say 'And She is the greatest of all Gods.'. You say 'I hope that is not so.'. You say 'The Pax will oppose you.'. Grobnak says 'Fool. Do you wish the world to be truly destroyed?'. You shake your head.. You say 'You rush headlong into Death.'. You say 'You urge the fall of The ROk.'. Grobnak says 'Ao will not rebuild what he made. He will wipe the slate clean and start anew.'. You say 'That is evil.'. Grobnak says 'The Apprentice will show us that the Realms are as a Phoenix, rising from its own destruction.'. You say 'And so what will you do? Stop the Rok from destroying The Apprentice?'. Grobnak says 'I urge the fall of the RoK that The Apprentice will be released, and save us all.'. Grobnak says 'It is not necessarily good, but neither is it evil.'. Grobnak says 'The RoK itself will not destroy The Apprentice.'. Grobnak says 'That is supposed to be Sephiroths' job.'. You say 'Where is this Apprentice hidden?'. Grobnak says 'Ao hired him without doing his research.'. Grobnak chuckles politely.. Grobnak says 'That is not of your concern, Sinner.'. You say [OOC] 'OK.... OOC now.'. You say [OOC] 'That was fun... as I expected it would be.'. You grin evilly.. Grobnak says [OOC] '*grin* :p'. Grobnak nods.. You say [OOC] 'Gotta say, I've enjoyed your RP.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Thank you. I've enjoyed yours. :)'. You say [OOC] 'Tell me a little about yourself... basic data... age, name, height, location.'. You bow deeply.. You say [OOC] 'Thank you.'. Grobnak sits back and begins to think.. You say [OOC] 'Take your time.'. You say [OOC] 'Just to get a picture of who you are... behind the keyboard.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Hmm.. I'm 23 and I live in a *village* with a population of 2000 people.'. You nod.. Krogenar listens.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'We get heavy winters, and I hate where I live.'. You say [OOC] 'Where is that?'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'K... enough of my gripe with Roscommon.'. Grobnak chuckles politely.. You say [OOC] 'Is that where you live? What state is that?'. Krogenar listens.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'I'm 5'10" and my IRL name is Daniel Crockett. It's in Michigan.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'I came back here like a year ago to be able to go to college.'. You say [OOC] 'What do you study?'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Less distraction than there was in Oregon.'. You nod at Grobnak.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Computer Science. Though I may be changing my major soon.'. You raise an eyebrow at the notion.. You say [OOC] 'To what?'. Grobnak sits back and begins to think.. You say [OOC] 'Not sure?'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Not sure yet. I like anthropology, and I like the theatre.'. You poke him in the ribs.. You nod.. You say 'Both excellent choices.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Maybe I'll just become a playwright who specializes in Indiana Jones movies. :p'. Grobnak chuckles politely.. You chuckle politely.. You say [OOC] 'I'd go see that!'. Grobnak grins evilly.. You smile at him.. You feel less protected.. You feel holy and pure.. You say [OOC] 'Let me ask you this...'. You say [OOC] 'How did you start mudding?'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Yeah... watch out for the little halforc that appears in the next one... there'll be subtitles with him screaming "For the RoK!" lol'. Grobnak sits back and begins to think.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Well... that's kinda complicated.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'My first mud experience was at my friend's Noah's house.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'I don't remember the mud. I was 13 and didn't know what it was.'. You nod.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Years later, when I was about 19, my RL friend Brian introduced me to this place.'. You nod.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'But he says I introduced him to MUDding.'. You say [OOC] 'How long have you been here on WD?'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'It's really kinda hazy. He runs a rot of his own now.'. You may now quest again.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Honestly? I can't say for certain. I was 19 when I came here, and I'm 23 now... which means it could have been shortly after it opened or as far along as six months after it opened.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'But I wasn't really active until the last year and a half or so.'. You say [OOC] 'Why did you suddenly become more active again?'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'My first character here was "Kyoem The Wolf" lol'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'I moved to a hick town in Northern Michigan.'. Grobnak chuckles politely.. Krogenar doesn't recall a 'Kyoem'. Grobnak nods.. Grobnak says 'You shouldn't.'. You smile happily.. You say [OOC] 'What other alts have you had or have?'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'I think I got him to like level 10, then I made Seyrro.'. Krogenar nods, listens.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Didn't go far with him, either.'. Grobnak says 'Then I made Azrael.'. Krogenar recalls that name.. +---------------------| Waterdeep 'City Of Splendors' |---------------------+. Name: Azrael . Level: 1 . Age: 17 . Race: human . Class: vampire . Clan: . Description:. . Azrael last logged on at Mon Oct 22 09:55:26 2001. . Last on: 9 days 10 hours 28 minutes ago. . +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+. Grobnak says [OOC] 'He was a Harper. That was my first real character. I still hold the name, though I haven't done anything with the pfile since Cyric wiped him.'. You raise an eyebrow at the notion.. You say [OOC] 'Why was he wiped?'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'I'm honestly kinda scared I might do the same with Grob.'. You say [OOC] 'You're afraid you'll be wiped?'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Well, I'd just started imming on other muds. I wasn't being disrespectful, but I did ignore the warning signs.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Look at my level, Krog. I was wiped two days ago.'. [ 33 M Human Vam] (RP) [EoS] Grobnak Orangefang. You wince in agony.. Grobnak nods.. You say [OOC] 'What happened?'. You say [OOC] 'What does imming on other muds have to do with it? If anything?'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'I'd rather not talk about it just yet. But I will say that I feel there were no warning signs this time. Azrael getting wiped was pretty fucked up, but at least there was fairly clear warning.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'This time I thought I had the imms go-ahead. I'd say I was mistaken.'. You say [OOC] ''go-ahead'?'. Grobnak shakes his head.. You say [OOC] ''go-ahead' for what?'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Nevermind. Let's just leave it in the blank pages of the history books. It's on appeal.'. You say [OOC] 'Are you sure you can't say what it was? If not the specifics... what imming on other muds had to do with it?'. Grobnak sits back and begins to think.. You say [OOC] 'Were you advertising another mud, while here?'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Ahh, for Azrael? No- I dont' advertize.'. You say [OOC] 'What did you do to get Azrael wiped? You don't seem like a troublemaker to me.'. You say [OOC] 'Did you say something 'smart-alecky'?'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Well, when I first started imming, I noticed all these things the imms were doing 'wrong' on the mud.'. Krogenar nods, listens.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Of course, "wrong" is a matter of opinion.'. You nod in enthusiastic agreement with Grobnak.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'So I was in a ..challenging.. mindset.'. You say [OOC] 'And they didn't take kindly to that?'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'So I wouldn't really do anything wrong, so much as provoke the imms.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'I've always loved a good debate.'. You raise an eyebrow at the notion.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Nope.'. You say [OOC] 'Well, I wouldn't provoke them - not wise.'. Grobnak chuckles politely.. You say [OOC] 'And unnecessary.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Obviously. :p'. You nod.. You say 'But Grob's recent wipe... was that about your 'mindset'?'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Nothing to do with it.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Azrael was wiped a long time ago.'. You say [OOC] 'What was Grob's recent wipe about? What happened?'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'I asked an imm about the legality of something and misunderstood their answer. There was something not listed in the rule books that would normally quite clearly be illegal.'. You nod.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'But it appears the imms handle it dependent on a certain set condition. I say they should list the one condition in the rules.'. You say [OOC] 'So... you went and DID this act?'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'I asked the imms first.'. You nod.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'I did it one time, which was fine.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Then I did it a second time, thinking it was fine under the circumstances, and was wiped.'. Krogenar nods and listens, waits for Grob to continue.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'What pisses me off is I discussed doing it again with a clannie and the imms were watching...'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'And said nothing.'. You say [OOC] 'Can you tell me what that action was? To keep others from doing it?'. Krogenar listens.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'First: I'd like to note that I do not defend the morality of it. It is WRONG.'. You nod.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'When a player shares a character, they are making that character susceptible to theft.'. You say [OOC] 'Ok... I don't want to get you in trouble... or encourage others to do this. You did get wiped for it.'. Grobnak nods.. Krogenar nods, listens.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'WOuld you like me to give you the full story?'. Krogenar nods.. Grobnak nods.. You say [OOC] 'I would.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Ok... almost a year ago I was given the pword for the character Psylince.'. You say [OOC] 'Right.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'I'd considered it, but never acted on the possibility of theft.'. +---------------------| Waterdeep 'City Of Splendors' |---------------------+. Name: Psylince . Level: 101 . Age: 37 . Race: kenku . Class: wizard . Clan: Crimson Guardians. Description:. In the midst of a town you are surrounded by a copious amount of sounds.. The sound is so penetratIng that you can't even think correctly.. Then a slight mist covers the whole area. Then! A CRASH of LIGHTNING!. Everybody and every sound seem to fade away.. You look around and see nothing. All there is to see is fog.. You stand there mesmerized, unable to say a single word or make a single sound.. You notice somebody next to you. He stands with great posture.. His hair is a dark black, like a black whole. It seems to absorb all light.. His body is of good build. The one thing you especially notice is his. six pak. You assume it's probably as hard as steel.. You open your mouth and try to scream, But nothing comes out.. He leans next to you and whispers "SILENCE". All of a suddenly you are back in the town.. . Psylince last logged on at Wed Oct 31 01:08:21 2001. . Last on: 0 days 18 hours 26 minutes ago. . +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+. You say [OOC] 'How did you get this password?'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'This time, while considering it, I decided to ask if it was legal.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Character sharing.'. You say [OOC] 'You wanted to see if 'sharing' a character was legal?'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'I asked Erevan, without giving the name of Psylince.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'No, if character theft was legal. Because it was not recognized by imms and I heard people getting characters stolen all the time.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'And I thought Psylince was inactive.'. You say [OOC] 'You mean... it was not in the Rules List.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'So, after asking him about it, Erevan explained it was part of character sharing, which was not recognized.'. Grobnak nods.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'That, too. That's why I was asking about it.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Now, let me explain something about myself. I'm not a bad guy (at least I think so), and I'm not prone to immoral activity.'. Krogenar nods, grinning.. You say [OOC] 'So, you were asking if it was 'technically' legal - to steal a character?'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'But if I'm considering doing something wrong, I probably won't do it. But if suddenly someone decides they're goign to take away the opportunity to make the decision myself, I'm 90% likely to do it.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'More or less, yes.'. You nod.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'I didn't want to break any rules.'. You raise an eyebrow at the notion.. You say [OOC] 'But that doesn't seem right... does it?'. You poke him in the ribs.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Heh. I already said I won't defend the morality of it.'. You nod.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'It was morally reprehensible. I acknowledge that.'. The white aura around your body fades.. Your rage ebbs.. You say [OOC] 'Hey! I made a mistake willingly once too, and was punished.'. You are surrounded by a white aura.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Can I continue? :p'. You are filled with holy wrath!. You are already in a frenzy.. Krogenar nods.. Krogenar covers his mouth, and lets Grobnak continue.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'At any rate, instead of telling me why he wants the name, Erevan threatened me with infinite corner until I gave him the name of the character.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Needless to say, I gave him the name. And I asked him, point blank, if he was going to note psylince and warn him, or change his pword.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'He said he was just making me paranoid.'. Grobnak shrugs helplessly.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Pretty noncommital. So I suddnely felt kinda pressed for time to make the decision.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'So I decided to do it.'. The beast within growls for food.. You should eat something.. A Psychedelic Magic Mushroom suddenly appears.. You get a Psychedelic Magic Mushroom.. You eat a Psychedelic Magic Mushroom.. You are full.. You shake your head.. You say [OOC] 'Yer crazy!'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'After I did it, everything was cool so far.'. Grobnak shakes his head.. Krogenar listens.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'The imms said it was okay for me to steal Psylince.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'I had their APPROVAL.'. You raise an eyebrow at the notion.. You say [OOC] 'Was it stated that directly, that explicitly?'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'They had wanted the name so they could post a note about the fact it had been a shared character, so that when the character was asked to be returned, it would not.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Not those words, no. But I had consent. Yuna even told me so after the fact.'. You say [OOC] 'So what was their reason for wiping you?'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'I didn't know at the time that only the shared characters were fair game. I thought all that player's alts were. And one of the reasons I thought so was cuz I had a clannie talking about other thefts he'd commited'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'On other occasions.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'He said over clan channel, and I quote "We can score on this"'. You say [OOC] 'What was the 'score'? Money, EQ?'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'So I went after an alt, and hit the jackpot.'. You say [OOC] 'It was a mule character?'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'the character.'. Grobnak nods.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Psylince and Kenny are mule alts... or they were before Hellkite was deleted.'. You say [OOC] 'Were they Hellkite's Mules?'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Which is one of the reasons I thought him to be inactive.'. You say [OOC] 'Alts... rather.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Hmm... Is that power lag or am I disconnected?'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Yes, they were his alts/mules.'. You say [OOC] 'Did you get into Kenny?'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Basically, I thought it was open season on the alts. And I was being encouraged to do it. Let me make this clear, though: I take responsibility for what happened.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'I just think, that with the imms watching and my intent clearly not to have broken any rules, I should have been warned.'. You say [OOC] 'Did the imms give you permission to steal Kenny? Or just Psylince?'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'I got Kenny.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Just Psylince. I thought Kenny's char was cool, too.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Kenny is what got me wiped.'. You nod.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'And it wasn't even accessing the pfile that did it.'. You say [OOC] 'Please... don't take this the wrong way, but -'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'I could have just robbed the pfile blind, and the imms would have been fine with it.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'But it was changing the pword.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'I know, I know. It was wrong.'. You say [OOC] 'Do you know the difference between the 'spirit' of the law, and 'letter' of the law?'. You say [OOC] 'If people only follow the 'letter' - then the imms have to become lawyers...'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Heh. Yeah. Know the difference between justice and the law?'. You poke him in the ribs.. You say [OOC] 'And you should know better - being an imm yourself.'. You say [OOC] 'OK! On to something more pleasant.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'When the imms endorse a given action, it sends a different signal than, "Don't do this" for the same action in the future.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'They didn't explain to me that it was special circumstance.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Instead they threatened me with the corner. I probably wouldn't have even taken Psylince if they hadn't forced the name out of me.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Remember, I could have done that almost a year ago.'. You nod.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'If they'd chosen to be straightforward, I probably wouldn't be here.'. You say [OOC] 'Let me ask you about something more interesting anyway...'. Grobnak nods.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Go for it.'. Grobnak smiles happily.. You say [OOC] 'Roleplaying. - What does it mean to you?'. Grobnak sits back and begins to think.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'In what regard?'. You say [OOC] 'In any regard! Why do you RP?'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'How I value it? What I feel is proper RP?'. Grobnak sits back and begins to think.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'I RP because I enjoy it.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'And in the case of Grob, because its something different.'. You say [OOC] 'What do you enjoy about it?'. You say [OOC] 'And why is Grob different?'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'How much I value it? Hmm... it's slightly more than a hobby, and slightly less than what I'd like to do with my life- like working R&D for WotC would be fun. :)'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'What do I enjoy about it? '. Grobnak sits back and begins to think.. Krogenar nods, listens.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Well... in one sense, I get to let go of myself, tune in to something else, and literally immerse myself in another world.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'In another sense, it also sometimes frustrates me.'. Grobnak shrugs helplessly.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Grob is different because he seems to be one of the very few who actually RP the evil side to the RoK issue.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Most evil characters on WD are just PK, they don't really RP.'. You nod.. You say [OOC] 'I agree.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'On the other end of the scale, most good PK clans are more RP oriented than PK. Up until recently, Seraphic being the exception.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Though I have a healthy respect for CoJ, too. :)'. You say [OOC] 'They are improving, I think.'. Grobnak shakes his head.. You say [OOC] 'Well... both of them.'. You say [OOC] 'Some in Seraphs are becoming RPers.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'I think Seraphic has gone away from what their RP was supposed to be.'. You say [OOC] 'Not so much CoJ... :('. You shake your head.. You say [OOC] 'Read about Zaknafein and Firehawk.'. You say [OOC] 'They are trying to become better writers, and they are making headway.'. Grobnak shakes his head.. Krogenar listens.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Their RP skills are improving, yes.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'But they are not being true to what Seraphic is about.'. You say [OOC] 'They have the courage to publish!'. You raise an eyebrow at the notion.. You say [OOC] 'Tell me then, what they should be all about.'. Krogenar listens.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Seraphic was supposed to be the most evil good clan there is. They are supposed to be such fanatical good oriented that the things they do in the name of good are often as bad as some of the things the evil clans do.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'I just don't think they're being true to that any more- and associating with Mystrans is a sure sign of that.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Mystra is supposed to be a neutral clan. Even though most of them is good. :p'. You say [OOC] 'The Church of Mysteries is quite misunderstood. But that's another story.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'I think, and forgive me, cuz I have not been a Mystran, that they are also not active quite the same as they should. They end up never fighting the good really, but always evil.'. Grobnak nods.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'I'll accept that.'. Grobnak smiles happily.. Grobnak utters the words, 'oculoinfra uizug'.. You say [OOC] 'Active? In what way?'. Grobnak utters the words, 'oculoinfra pueoculoi'.. You say [OOC] 'You mean fighting good clans?'. Grobnak nods.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Exactly.'. You say [OOC] 'Well... that makes sense. How often do The Apostle of Sune burn down a library?'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'I don't think the Mystrans act selfish enough.'. You say [OOC] 'Or the Guardians attack young mages?'. You chuckle politely.. You say [OOC] 'Just you wait.'. You chuckle politely.. You say [OOC] 'I've got some plans too.'. You poke him in the ribs.. You say [OOC] 'Just like you.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'They're *Mystrans* They should be secretive and quiet, sitting back and watching what others do, only stepping in when it serves to help The Weave.'. Grobnak snickers softly.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Fair enough. :)'. You say [OOC] 'If you've read Krog's stories... he originally did not want to be in the Pax. He wanted to find a way to save The Church - and leave The Realms to their fate!'. Grobnak snickers softly.. You say [OOC] 'Read the last chapter of my story.'. Grobnak nods.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'I'll do that. :)'. You say [OOC] 'You'll see it there. Bright and clear.'. You say [OOC] 'When Laisha, Shara and Krog are talking at the end.'. You smile happily.. You say [OOC] 'And we would save The Cyrinshad from destruction, if it were threatened.'. Grobnak sighs.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Still no posts on my RP section...'. You raise your eyebrow at Grobnak.. You say [OOC] 'Don't wait. Just log them, and ask permission, and post them.'. You say [OOC] 'Apathy is sometimes as reliable as gravity.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'K. Are there any particular questions you'd like to ask me?'. Grobnak nods.. Grobnak says 'Agreed'. You say [OOC] 'Sure. How did you come up with the idea of Grobnak, and The Jihad?'. You say [OOC] 'Tell me about Jihad?'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'A sec.. being called'. You nod.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Sorry bout that. Poopy diaper. Ick!'. Grobnak snickers softly.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'I came up with Jihad originally based on two things:'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'If you type who, how many people do you see with EoS toggled?'. The Visible Mortals and Immortals of Waterdeep. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------. HRO M Podkv Wiz DHM [.N] Galactus [PeNGuIn InVaSion] (RP) (EoS) knows his abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz's ,cool. 33 M Human Vam [.N] Grobnak (RP) (EoS) Orangefang. . Players found: 37 Most on today: 48. You say [OOC] 'You and Galactus.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Exactly.'. You say [OOC] 'For the record... (EoS) means "Empire of Sephiroth"'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Back when I came up with Jihad, Vector still had the MagiTek Army'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'So EoS was largely unrepresented.'. Grobnak nods.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'I know.'. Grobnak grins evilly.. You say [OOC] 'I know... I was in MagiTek.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'You were? I didn't know that. :p'. You say [OOC] 'Laugh... go ahead. Just do it.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Hmm... that could make for some interesting RP... but any way.. :p'. You say [OOC] 'Get it over with.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Also, at the time, there was a cult called The Sentinels who my alt, Awwnurn, was in.'. You nod.. The green in your vision disappears.. Your eyes jump into focus.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'The Sentinels were devoted solely to stopping the RoK.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'And we were planning to take Titan Valley through RP with permission of Niss.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'More or less the progenitors of Pax. :p'. You wince in agony.. You shake your head.. Grobnak shrugs helplessly.. You say [OOC] 'No... we're better. We will stop it.'. Krogenar grins.. Grobnak snickers softly.. Krogenar listens.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Any way, I thought about it, and people back in the medieval days didn't know what a meteor was.'. You shrug.. You say [OOC] 'Ok.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'In fact, FF is the only fantasy genre that even really brings meteors up.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'And what word can you associate with both gods and the stars?'. You say [OOC] 'Celestia?'. You say [OOC] 'Ragnarok?'. You nod.. You say [OOC] 'Ragnarok.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'First one is closest.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Celestial.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Celestial events have inspired religious awe in mankind since the dawn of time.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'What would you imagine someone in the medieval days would think the RoK was if they saw it up in the sky?'. You say [OOC] 'A god.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Ever looked in the Bible? It talks about mountains falling from the sky, on fire, in some parts.'. Krogenar listens.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Exactly. A god. A flaming mountain.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'And thus was born the Jihad. I chose the name The Jihad because I wanted a fanatic and delusional character, and what would you most closely associate with fanaticism?'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Islam. And islam's word for holy war, or "To struggle in the way of God"'. You say [OOC] 'Terrorists, baby!'. You nod.. Grobnak snickers softly.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'But what I find really interesting is the way everything has turned out.'. You say [OOC] 'Planning on crashing any airships into the TriPower Tower?'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'It's turning out more and more that Grob isn't delusional.'. Krogenar covers his mouth, listens.. Krogenar nods.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Hell, no. I couldn't afford one BEFORE my wipe, let alone AFTER. :p'. You say [OOC] 'Neither could the terrorists.'. Grobnak snickers softly.. You are surrounded by a white aura.. You feel yourself moving more quickly.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Bad joke. :p'. You say [OOC] 'Sorry... I don't mean to make light of it.'. Grobnak nods.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'I think everyone has made one or two bad jokes about it. Don't feel bad. It's a natural response to grief/anger to try making it something positive.'. Grobnak shrugs helplessly.. You say [OOC] 'You were saying Grobnak isn't delusional?'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Niss's post about the Apprentice changed that. Before, I'd made Grob as something to be delusional, thinking somewhat of Deil. But the more this campaign seems to progress, the more I find some of the things I've'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'had Grob say to be correct.'. You say [OOC] 'New question.'. You say [OOC] 'What are the good and bad points of RP here in WD?'. You say [OOC] 'In your opinion?'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Hmm...'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'No one wants their character to be wrong. No one wants their character to take a fall.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'And in all honesty, I can't claim to be an exception.'. Krogenar listens.. Krogenar kicks at his crutches.. You smile happily.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'But I know there are times, when I'm talking in tells that I'm trying to convert a character to Jihad, that they should have caved already.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'But their player doesn't want to take that direction with their character. Which is fine, if a little frustrating.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'The only exception...'. Krogenar nods, listens.. You say [OOC] 'So, you're having trouble recruiting?'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'That I've encountered is Kevin. Speaking of which, he wanted to set up a debate between you and Grob to see if you couldn't keep him from leaving the Pax for Jihad.'. Grobnak snickers softly.. You smile happily.. You say [OOC] 'That would be good. He would stay. :)'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Jihad worships something sent to destroy the Realms and believes Hemelia to be a blessing.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Need I say more?'. You say [OOC] 'Besides... I want someone ELSE to debate you.'. You say [OOC] '*nod* Thats a tough sell.'. Grobnak says [OOC] '?'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Who?'. You say [OOC] 'Why not someone else? Let it be a surprise.'. Grobnak nods.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Fair enough.'. You say [OOC] 'Besides, I have to delegate authority - to let people know I trust them.'. Grobnak grins evilly.. Grobnak nods.. You say [OOC] 'To let them know that the Pax is THEIRS - not mine.'. You say [OOC] 'Maybe Danthor.... or Jovik.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Yew es sujch a gawd leedeir.'. Grobnak pats you on your head.. Grobnak snickers softly.. Grobnak discovers A bug's hands in his wallet!. You cackle gleefully.. Grobnak says [OOC] ':p'. Grobnak looks at A bug.. You conjure a cloud of purple smoke.. A bug is revealed!. Grobnak is revealed!. Grobnak growls.. You say [OOC] 'But in general... is the RP here in WD good or bad?'. *thwock!* Grobnak slaps A bug!. A bug slaps Grobnak.. Grobnak says 'Stay away from that, vermin!'. You say [OOC] 'What needs to be changed? Or would you not change a thing?'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Hmm... in general, I'd say we have a very healthy RP now.'. You nod.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'But I'd have to say that about six months ago, it wasn't as vibrant.'. You say [OOC] 'Any suggestions on improvement?'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'I'm not sure exactly what needs to be changed, or HOW to change it.'. You nod.. You say [OOC] 'That's honest.'. You say [OOC] 'I think its humming a long.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'One change I've seen that the PKers will bitch about to no end is making MS safe when running campaign plots.'. You chuckle politely.. You nod.. You say [OOC] 'I know. Too bad.'. Grobnak says 'But it's a change I approve of.'. You nod in enthusiastic agreement with Grobnak.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Err.. mischann.'. Grobnak snickers softly.. You gasp in astonishment.. Grobnak raises an eyebrow.. You say [OOC] 'You're not a mischan lawyer are you?'. You poke him in the ribs.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Some have called me one. Sometimes I am, others I'm not.'. You say [OOC] 'You said you're a imm on other muds...'. You say [OOC] 'How does WD compare to other muds?'. You say [OOC] 'Why do you mud here?'. Krogenar stops... listens.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'I guess that makes me a bit of a hypocrite.'. Grobnak shrugs helplessly.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'But I do strive to be consistent.'. Grobnak has lost his link.. Grobnak has reconnected.. Grobnak mutters something quietly to himself.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Disconnected... last tried to call myself a hypocrite... what'd I miss?'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'I guess that makes me a bit of a hypocrite.'. Grobnak shrugs helplessly.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'But I do strive to be consistent.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'There, what I was saying as I was disconnected.'. You say [OOC] '... consistent.'. Grobnak nods.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Ack... '. Grobnak is m o v i n g v e ry sl o w l y .... Hmmm you looked puzzled? Something wrong?. A bug leaves west.. You say [OOC] 'What is inconsistent? You're lawyering?'. The Blue Moon Tavern. There are a flight of stairs leading down right here, into what looks like to be a bar. North large glass windows look out into the street. From here you can see Market Square and the Festival Square. You see the great fountain flow with the waters of the river. . . [Exits: south west down] [Doors: none]. A large round table with a candle sits in the middle of the room.. Grobnak Orangefang is here.. [..C.........] A cave bear sits here awating its masters command.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Heh. I try to be consistent in my own actions so that if I say something to someone else about something similar, I don't appear to be a hypocrite.'. Grobnak shrugs helplessly.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Sometimes I'm wrong, too, though.'. You say [OOC] 'You said you're a imm on other muds...'. You say [OOC] 'How does WD compare to other muds?'. You say [OOC] 'Why do you mud here?'. Krogenar stops... listens.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Yeah. I mud here for several reasons: the biggest one being familiarity.'. You nod.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'In both directions. People know who I am, I know who the people are. I know the way things work here, for the most part. Though the wipe shows that I can be pretty ignorant sometimes, too.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Other reasons? I've invested too much time into this mud to just up & leave.'. You nod.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'I see other people get all pissed off and delete, and it makes me sad. Because I know they'll be back some day, and they'll have to start all over again.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'How WD compares to other muds...'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'WD has an RP that is fairly familiar to most people. Most gamers know what FR is and what FF is.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'This is something that helps new people stick around.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Then there's the size of the pbase.'. You nod.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'The pbase is big enough right now that it's always got something interesting going on, and theres' always RP if you look for it.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'But it's not so big that it's impossible to get individual attention like it is on some other muds.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Like Medievia'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'And, again, it's the familiarity with FR and FF that makes WD.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Most muds I've seen don't really have a central theme or a real comprehensive global campaign.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'THey have a tendency toward, "Oh, it's Star Wars" or "Oh, medieval fantasy" but nothing really more complex than that.'. You nod.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'here, you can mesh yourself in with everything that's going on. And there are details to the story.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'It's not vague like it is on most muds.'. You say [OOC] 'What would you like to see here in WD, that isn't here now?'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Hmm...'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Formations.'. Krogenar grins.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'And more teamwork.'. You say [OOC] 'Explain what they are.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'I'd like to see more hero runs that emphasize more teamwork.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Formations is how you form your party when you're grouping.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'It would make a difference in your effectiveness as a party, for example, if your wizard was in the front of the fray as opposed to in the middle or back.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Not the same thing as tanking, but there are similarities in concept.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Not to bring Medievia up again, but that's one thing that struck me as a strong point for their mud.'. You say [OOC] 'So the leader of the 'formation' could move people to the front or back.... like moving a wounded character to the back, for safety.'. Grobnak nods.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'exactly'. You say [OOC] 'And gladiators would be front and center.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Krogenar, front and center, young man!'. Grobnak chuckles politely.. You shake your head.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Yeah, something like that.'. You say [OOC] 'No thanks! I'll be in the rear with the geaR!'. Krogenar grins.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'I can't really explain it very well.'. You say [OOC] 'I am a strider after all.'. Grobnak nods.. Grobnak snickers softly.. You say [OOC] 'OK... 2 more questions.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Cleaving bastard. :p'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Go for it.'. Grobnak grins evilly.. You say [OOC] 'Is there any question I should have asked, but didn't?'. Grobnak sits back and begins to think.. Grobnak shakes his head.. You say [OOC] 'That you would like to ask, and answer right now?'. You nod.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Not that I can think of off the top of my head.'. You say [OOC] 'You can now ask me ONE question.'. You say [OOC] 'If you like.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Hmmm...'. Krogenar sits back, stretches.. Krogenar has all the answers.. You scratch yourself contentedly.. You look around, make sure nobody is watching, and you adjust your "Tool.". A bug has arrived.. A EVIL timber eatting bug crawls here. A bug is in excellent condition.. A bug is using:. <pri. weapon> a standard issue dagger. Grobnak says [OOC] 'What would be the most effective way of destroying the Pax, and how to do so?'. You cackle gleefully.. You say [OOC] 'Excellent question!'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Nothing far-fetched.'. You say [OOC] 'Destroy Krogenar.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Be honest now, O Journalist of Waterdeep!'. You say [OOC] 'Is that far-fetched?'. You say [OOC] 'I'm the one who's mainly behind it, right now - but more people are becoming involved.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'hmm... and how would I do that? I can't very well PK him to death. :p'. You say [OOC] 'True. PK death means little to me.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'I thought of that. I was going to ask you the best way to willingly convert Krog. :p'. You say [OOC] 'You could (through RP) weaken him.'. You say [OOC] 'As you know, he's not invulnerable.'. Grobnak stares at the crutches.... You nod at Grobnak.. You say [OOC] 'I still have the right to decide how I'll RP Krog...'. Grobnak picks up one of the crutches and begins to beat you severely about the head and shoulders with it.. Grobnak nods.. Grobnak grins evilly.. You say [OOC] 'So I'm not giving you a free 'convert Krog' ticket.'. You must be tired.. A bug leaves west.. Grobnak says 'Cool.'. You say [OOC] 'But getting his legs back would sorely test him.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Anything else? Mischann...'. You say [OOC] 'And probably (possibly) hand you a victory over him.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'I know. I was thinking of some kind of ragnarok healing.'. Grobnak throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!. You say [OOC] 'Hrm... I figured you would!'. Grobnak snickers softly.. You say [OOC] 'What about Grob? Could he be converted back to goodness?'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'He hears the voice of the Apprentice in his head daily.'. You say [OOC] 'It seems to me, that he's a very empathetic character. Somewhat sad.'. You say [OOC] 'His soul hollowed out by sadness.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'If you can get past that and the fact it was the RoK which brought him back from the dead, go for it.'. You say [OOC] 'The Rok's power filling that void.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'That goes into the conclusion of THe Past... roles'. You nod.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Still need ot do those...'. You say [OOC] 'WHich I read carefully.'. You say [OOC] 'Anyway Grob could turn out as a hero?'. Grobnak nods.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'You're absolutely right'. You say [OOC] 'About what?'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Actually, I was considering for non-rp reasons and some RP, to have him be the ultimate good guy if Jihad gets the swords.'. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Well, his soul being hollowed out by sadness. Very eloquent, btw'. You nod.. You say [OOC] 'Ok... lets leave it at that!'. You smile happily.. You say [OOC] 'Thank you for the interview.'. You bow before him.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Something... ok'. Grobnak smiles happily.. Grobnak says [OOC] 'Thank you. :)'. You say [OOC] 'Thank YOU.'. You say [OOC] 'Now back to IC.'. You say 'Scum!'. Grrrrrrrrrr....take that, Grobnak!!!. # Wednesday, October 31, 2001::20:56:42 :: Log Closed.